I spoke with her last night and she was fine!
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lilyns |
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With the usual "Lilah-esque" drama, we managed to accomplish getting her admitted to the Grove School! It was a harrowing experience, to say the
least. Without going into detail, let me just say that Monday was the scheduled admission day and things were going a bit too smoothly. We got to the school,
met everyone who will be working with Lilah, and helped her unpack and settle in. Then, with the school's permission (BAD MOVE!!!), Lilah, Scemi and I
went off grounds to dinner. In the midst of dinner, Lilah decided she didn't want to go to the school and ended up "running" away. She called
one of her Brooklyn friends and told him she almost killed herself by standing on RR tracks with an oncoming train then jumping away because she changed her
mind. She finally told us where she was (about a half mile down the road) and we went to get her. I called the school to tell them we'd be late and they
informed me that the Connecticut police were at the school because at the request of the NYPD, who received a call from the Brooklyn friend that Lilah
attempted suicide! The police arrived minutes later followed by EMS and off we all went to Yale-New Haven Hospital where we spent 6 hours waiting for Lilah to
be psychiatrically evaluated in the adult psych ER!!! Of course she was medically cleared and released and VERY SCARED. By this time it was nearly
midnight, so we had to spend the night in a hotel and go to the school the next morning for a meeting with the directors. More drama at the meeting, but in
the end she agreed to return to Grove and was wisked off by her advisor. I had to pay another $50 for a cab back to New Haven to get the train to NYC.
I spoke with her last night and she was fine!
Lynne,
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OMG...I am so sorry Lynne but I actually burst out laughing at your retelling of the story. Of course, there is nothing funny about living it but to hear you
tell it, it really made me laugh out loud. I guess it's your gift for storytelling rather than the actual events.
I am flabbergasted at Lilah's latest antics...all I can say is THANK GOD she is at Grove School. How exactly did the school react to all of this? Do you feel confident that they will be able to handle these types of behaviors on-the-fly during the year? Also, please remind me about home visits with Grove School...not every weekend anymore....but cannot recall the schedule. If I were you, I'd have crawled into bed and hidden under the covers...the whole thing sounds scary and um well dramatic. Sigh.
Heather
Mom of Alexa, (17 years old) Diagnosed BP-NOS (09/05), updated to BP II w/psychotic features (05/08) Oppositional Defiant Disorder Abilify (10 mg), Lamictal (200 mg), Klonipin (.5 mg) as needed Topamax at night only (100 mg) Seroquel at night only (200mg) *when she is willing* Attends alternative therapeutic high school (Ohio) |
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lilyns |
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Heather, my feeling is that if you don't have a sense of humor about all this, you're sunk! Sometimes that's the only thing that keeps me going. The directors were pretty low-key and inferred that they have dealt with incidents like this and much worse. I'm pretty sure that they'll know what
to do with her! (I gotta hope they will!) The usual police regarding visits is that there are no home visits for at least 4 weeks HOWEVER Lilah is entering
only two weeks before the firsst 2-week summer break, which starts June 23. (UGH! Couldn't have been worse timins, eh?) So she'll be home for 2 weeks
as of June 23. (How'd you like a friend for Alexa for a couple of weeks, Heather???
Lynne,
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Anita |
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Why would anything go smoothly with our kids? Glad she is there but what a pain that before she even gets settled she will be home for 2 weeks. Sure hope that
you do not have to go through this all over again.
Anita, mom to Kat,24, BP, living with us,mother to a 4 yr old and 2 yr old,on topomax 300mg, cymbalta200mg
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lilyns |
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G-d forbid, Anita...though that thought has certainly crossed my mind!
Lynne,
Mom of Lilah, age 16 (Abilify-15 mgms) |
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Lynne, prayers for you and Lilah.
Tracy
Mom of Travis-18 (still trying to figure out a dx.) was taking Depakote ER 500mg at bedtime was taking Seroquel 100mg at bedtime was taking Celexa 20mg/morning Completely off all meds at this time. |
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I agree with Anita. I hope you enjoy the two weeks you do have of calm.
Terri dd is 23 |
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lilyns wrote: Ummmmm I think I'll pass, LOL. Our two could get into soooooooo much trouble together...scary!!! LMAO...thanks for the offer, though. I'm glad the home visits will be conditional. This hopefully will give Lilah some incentive to behave well when she does come home. I know that is exactly what you are thinking, too. Is it too much to hope she will become acclimated and will actually go back without a fuss? Oh, one can hope! At least that is what I am HOPING! We'll see though. Does Lilah have an ability to call you at her discretion or are there limits? That is something I also was wondering about.
Heather
Mom of Alexa, (17 years old) Diagnosed BP-NOS (09/05), updated to BP II w/psychotic features (05/08) Oppositional Defiant Disorder Abilify (10 mg), Lamictal (200 mg), Klonipin (.5 mg) as needed Topamax at night only (100 mg) Seroquel at night only (200mg) *when she is willing* Attends alternative therapeutic high school (Ohio) |
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Lynn, what an ordeal! Never a dull moment! I am very worried already when you have to take her back after the two week break. I sure hope though you enjoy the
next two weeks and gain some strength for when she is on break.
I have often wondered about the kid switch, like the wife swap show. I bet our kids would be angels with one of the others for a vacation, but then they would most likely bottle it up and be even worse when they came back home! lots of hugggggs!
Tina
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Shucks, Heather...that's not very nice of you! I think L and A would make a great team. (I was willing to pay you, too!) Oh, well, I guess I'll have
to make alternate arrangements.
For the first four weeks everything is VERY limited and she is supervised at ALL times. I think she can call me twice a week in the presence of her advisor. Then, if there are no problems during the initial period, they're eligible for slightly increased privileges (i.e., instead of being with a staff member at all times, they can check in with staff every 15 minutes as long as they remain on campus). They don't get restricted use of their cell phones or computers for at least 4 weeks and their phones and computers are stored and have to be signed out for specific periods of time.
Lynne,
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Tina, I was thinking the same thing except I don't trust Alexa to try not to seriously corrupt Lilah! A. is so convincing and would probably be relentless!
Now if I had Lilah alone, she probably would be a total angel for me, and I would wonder what Lynne ever complained about! LOL!
This school supervision sounds just like what she needs..I'm sure that's at least partly why you chose this environment...it sounds perfect! The structure will be good, I think. It would be impossible to duplicate at home though...always an issue for us with the kids. Sigh. I am hoping you really enjoy your two weeks of calm and quiet, Lynne!
Heather
Mom of Alexa, (17 years old) Diagnosed BP-NOS (09/05), updated to BP II w/psychotic features (05/08) Oppositional Defiant Disorder Abilify (10 mg), Lamictal (200 mg), Klonipin (.5 mg) as needed Topamax at night only (100 mg) Seroquel at night only (200mg) *when she is willing* Attends alternative therapeutic high school (Ohio) |
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I'm sorry, I was grinning & waiting for the climax of the story. Quite the drama queen. But she's there!!
Rayni, mom to Nick, 22, SSI, topamax, abilify, buspar, (Asperger's, bipolar, anxiety); prilosec
(reflux); zyrtec-D, nasal spray (allergies); metformin (insulin resistance)
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Well, the drama never seems to end. Please enjoy your two weeks of peace and quiet. Also, would you mind refreshing my memory. Is this the school that
doesn't believe in meds, and all the kids who have gone there went on to college and were successful?
JoAnn, daughter 22, dysphoric bipolar disorder and insulin dependent diabetes, currently controlled with Lamictal, 400mgs, Lithium 450mgs, Seroquel 500mgs,
Klonipin 1mg and two types of Insulin
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I'm just getting here, but WOW! I'm glad she is there. OMGosh, I can't believe your story! I had to laugh out loud too. I could just shake her.
I'm glad she was scared. Maybe it will help. Good for the friend who called the police. Can you just imagine how scared that kid was? Enjoy your two weeks.
You sure need it.
BTW, since you are good at this..... I was wondering...... will you come July 12 and take Matt to the academy?? LOL DS-Matt,17 : DSolder- 24 : DD- 22 Depression, dx May 2008, ADHD- dx age 9 refuses meds Waiting to see if he will attend the "Mountaineer ChalleNGe Academy" "Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice!" Philippians 4:4 |
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You've got to be kidding, Heather...Alexa corrupt Lilah? I was thinking that it would be the other way around! Lilah is at the very
least a match for Alexa in the "relentless" and "convincing" areas!!! You are right, though about Lilah probably being an absolute angel
if with you alone. She can dupe people expertly, as you know.
JoAnn, Grove is not the school you were thinking of. That was the John Dewey Academy, which Scemi and I thought Lilah would not stay at for longer than 5 minutes because it was SSSSSSOOOOOOO rigorous. Plus, the NYC bus was right across the street. Grove School does do meds and also has a very high percentage of kids going to college, though - 85%, I believe. Chris, I'd be there on July 12th, but do you think Matt will??? (LOL)
Lynne,
Mom of Lilah, age 16 (Abilify-15 mgms)
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Wow Lynne, what an ordeal! Really scared me at first until I read that she was OK. I'm glad she is there, enjoy your time until the 23rd.
Chris, you make me laugh! Can you see it - all of us moms getting together every time one of our kids has to do something? Strength in numbers!!! I'll send E to be with A and Lilah if you want - she has been amazingly good when it comes to not doing bad stuff with friends. She came home last evening, saying her friends told her they were going to smoke pot and they knew she didn't like that so they were warning her. She tried to talk them out of it but was unsuccessful, so she came right home. Why she is friends with them I'll never understand - but she really doesn't have many friends her age, no "best friend" that doesn't end up making bad choices. I hope when she starts classes at the college she will hook up with some new kids. Her last day of school, by the way...it was rough yesterday. Lots of crying, hyperventilating...but she made it! Not looking forward to the actual graduation ceremony, it will be unbelievably hard for her.
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Kathy you have no idea how lucky you are that E. responds appropriately and strongly in those situations. My dd is getting better about knowing what is a good
idea and what isn't but I could not say 100% she would respond so responsibly. I would give her about a 70% chance, though, of doing the right thing, LOL.
If Lilah was with her, I give her a 10% chance, LOL... I think right now I am going to broach the subject of an ADHD med for Alexa with her doctor on Monday.
She is eating like crazy (I know, it's summer...lots of idle time) and isn't concentrating very well. She isn't able to read any books and so she
gets bored very easily. She also isn't able to sit and watch a program on TV or a movie. Her grades also went down since she hasn't been taking
anything. She had A's and one B and then it was B's and C's so not bad but I can see the concentration just isn't there. I already discussed it
with Alexa and said I will only ask about a once-a-day dosing of an ADHD med such as Vyvanse or Concerta. We won't do Adderall because she didn't like
that one at all even though there is an extended release version. Not sure but she says she will be responsible. I want to keep it to one per day as I
don't want the potential for abuse plus I can take them with me and leave them at work and just take one home for the next morning. Sigh. Just in case.
Do you think K. makes good decisions also, like her sister? I hope so...hope it runs in the family for your sake! Alexa's 18th birthday is fast approaching...June 27th! Can you believe that? Anyway, enough about us...Lynne maybe you should consider the very lucrative career of transporting ornery teens to different schools or wilderness programs. You certainly have the fortitude and experience required by now. And clearly you will not be deterred from the goal of getting them where they need to be! He he. I think you could make a small fortune!! Sorry to hear E had a bad last day. I suppose you were already bracing yourself for that one. Even though it wasn't unexpected, it is still hard to see them suffer so much, I know. Hoping the summer will go smoothly.
Heather
Mom of Alexa, (17 years old) Diagnosed BP-NOS (09/05), updated to BP II w/psychotic features (05/08) Oppositional Defiant Disorder Abilify (10 mg), Lamictal (200 mg), Klonipin (.5 mg) as needed Topamax at night only (100 mg) Seroquel at night only (200mg) *when she is willing* Attends alternative therapeutic high school (Ohio) |
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I feel badly for E also, Kathy. As I think I said before, things will probably calm down for her once she gets settled in college. Our kids are so
hyper-anxious around any change and this certainly is a BIG one for her.
Lynne,
Mom of Lilah, age 16 (Abilify-15 mgms) |
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Just getting here now. Sorry to hear about the drama. I have been there with Alex unfortunately so I know what you mean. Funny thing is, I don't think they
really want to kill themselves, just the attention they think it will bring. It never works how they think though. Alex ran away from me while miniputting into
oncoming traffic once because he didn't get a hole in one. The drama!
I am glad she is there. She will probably be better when she first comes home hoping you won't send her back but getting her back there will be challenging. Make sure you bring Scemi.
Kristin
Alex 12-GAD, mood disorder, 37.5mg Effexor, 3mg Invega, 100mg Topamax BID Matthew 10-ADHD, dysthymia, 300mg Wellbutrin XL |
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Enjoy your two weeks!
Maybe she'll end up liking it there.....(Praying) I swear all of our kids ought to be actors...The drama they perform is quite an ordeal. )
Quote:Mom to Jordan, age 12: Currently in Residental Care @ hospital Asthma Severe allergies Bipolar ADHD possible PDD-NOS taking 100 mg Seraquel in the PM Singlair and Claritin |
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lilyns |
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Well, vacation is upon us! Lilah came home today for the first of the summer's 2-1/2 week vacations (the second in before Labor Day). I can't say
that I'm overjoyed, - I wish she'd have had more time to acclamate to the program before having a break - but there's nothing I can do about it. I
must say, thouogh, that there is no comparison between this school and Harmony Heights. At Grove, everything is planned and has to be agreed upon
and approved by the school. It's made perfectly clear to the kid that the school and parents are working together. So Lilah, her advisor
(Alice), Scemi, and I had a conference call to plan out this vacation, including what was acceptable and what was not. Lilah was not too happy about a few
things and blew up at Alice, but apparently quickly calmed down after speaking with staff, apologized, and said she understood. We emphasized that it was
important that she carry over to home her the expectations and responsibilities she's required to perform at school, i.e., keeping her room neat, folding
and returning clean clothes to where they were, putting dirty clothing in the laundry basket, brushing her teeth and showering daily, and washing her dishes.
We are to discuss and agree upon her plans for each day the day/night before. She understands and agrees that she will not go to Brooklyn; her friends will
come to visit her...etc.,......you get the picture.
So, naturally, about 10 minutes after boarding the train with Scemi from New Haven, she calls me asking to dye her hair. I say "No," she flips out, but calms down shortly thereafter and goes on to the next request: wants to get together with her new "boyfriend" (they're not supposed to develop any "relationships" for at least six months at Grove), who is from California and staying in Manhattan with his parents for a few days. I say "No" again (as this already was decided by Alice and me and explained to Lilah yesterday) and she flips out again. When I spoke with her next, she was fine and tonight she, Scemi, and I are having dinner together. Anyway, we are going to Montauk for 4 or 5 days (from either June 27 or 28 until July 2) and afterwards Lilah will stay at her friend Marissa's summer house on Long Island for a few days before returning to the city. So she won't have too much free time before she returns to school on July 9th ( That's the latest.
Lynne,
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