http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=mental
The episode is called Manic at the Disco.
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kayzie |
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A friend told me about a show that is on Fox called Mental. The episode last night was about a boy who is bp. Hope it makes some more people aware that this
exists in kids!
http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=mental The episode is called Manic at the Disco.
Khadra
Lizzie age 6 (Asperger's/adhd/ocd) Kayla age 5 Gage age 3.5 (BP, sensory issues) Max age 18 months |
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Sounds really interesting. May try to watch it online if I get a spare minute. Right!!!
Anita, mom to Kat,24, BP, living with us,mother to a 4 yr old and 2 yr old,on topomax 300mg, cymbalta200mg
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Elainekh |
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We've been watching Mental, but had to record last night's episode. Hope to watch it tonight!
Elaine, Mom to DS, 19, seroquel 100mg at night (or when he sleeps, sometimes!!)
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tiredmama3 |
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Darn, I can't get it to play on my computer. I even tried installing the new player.
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Rayni |
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Hmmm, sounds interesting. I need to look into this further.
Rayni, mom to Nick, 22, SSI, topamax, abilify, buspar, (Asperger's, bipolar, anxiety); prilosec
(reflux); zyrtec-D, nasal spray (allergies); metformin (insulin resistance)
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jhmom |
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I can't get it to play either on the computer, but I got the DVR set to record it on Thursday when it re-airs. Thanks for the heads up.
Quote:Mom to Jordan, age 12: Currently in Residental Care @ hospital Asthma Severe allergies Bipolar ADHD possible PDD-NOS taking 100 mg Seraquel in the PM Singlair and Claritin |
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momofalexa |
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If this review is any indication, I fear the show will set things back more than help.
Free to Be InsaneMAY 22, 2009 An early scene from this Tuesday's premier of the new Fox series "Mental" (9-10 p.m. ET), a drama about a psychiatric ward in a fictional Los Angeles hospital, is representative of the larger problems that plague this ill-conceived show. While the administrators and doctors at Wharton Memorial Hospital eagerly await their new director of psychiatric services, a wild-eyed patient (looking very much like a danger to himself and others) arrives with a police escort. Through the miracle of modern television, the viewing audience is treated to a look at the hospital as it appears to this tormented soul: As a police officer explains that they found him "stark naked, no ID, screaming his freakin' head off in the middle of the highway," a reptilian tail unfolds from beneath a doctor's smock; the eyes of workers and cops turn red, sinister, serpent-like; and a forked tongue slithers from a young girl's mouth. Annabella Sciorra and Chris Vance star in 'Mental,' a new hospital drama on Fox. Before you can say lithium this clearly delusional patient is tearing at his clothes, naked once more, menacing the hospital staff with a metal chair. "Look! Flesh! Human flesh!" he cries, obviously convinced he's surrounded by demonic, alien beings disguised as fellow human beings. "You'll never make me like you! . . . You can't have me!" he shouts. The cops draw their guns. Events are spiraling out of control. What to do? Enter a handsome and terribly fit young man-think Harvey Keitel in his prime-who calmly begins to undress. Naked now, the man yells, "Hey! I'm real, too!" and approaches the patient. "Flesh! Human flesh!" he shouts, pounding his chest. "You're not alone!" We quickly learn, of course, that this man's not really delusional. No surprise here, he's the hospital's new daring and unconventional (but oh so attractive) head of psychiatric services, Dr. Jack Gallagher, played by London-born actor Chris Vance. What better way to introduce the star of our show than have him disrobe while simultaneously defusing a volatile situation and "earning the trust" of a delusional patient? We're not only given a glimpse of the dashing Dr. Gallagher's brilliance, we're also given a sneak peak of his fabulous body, which the female staff at Wharton Memorial can't stop talking about (there's even video of his psychiatric striptease making the rounds on the "hospital Internet"). The only problem with all this is that it's highly improbable, not to mention smug and ignorant. Play acting in someone else's delusion may sound like a good idea to the writers of "Mental" (the name itself reveals the triteness with which the subject matter is handled), but few psychiatric professionals would encourage or condone such an approach, especially for a patient in a florid state of psychosis. To top things off, Dr. Gallagher-while still naked-cavalierly orders another doctor to "scratch the Haldol," the patient's antipsychotic medication. This, however, is just the beginning of Dr. Gallagher's merry romp through this patient's life. In the course of the episode, he refuses to release the patient to the sister who has power of attorney for this longtime schizophrenic sufferer. Searching for clues to the patient's mental state, he breaks into the sister's house, where the patient has lived for years, and discovers he's an artist. The patient's name? Vincent. As in Vincent van Gogh. Ugh. In an effort to restore Vincent's "crippled" creativity, Dr. Gallagher washes all the medications from his system. "Let's get rid of the old chemistry and figure out how sick he really is," he tells his staff. When they ask what his course of treatment will be, he replies: "Megavitamins, neuro-feedback, acupuncture, homeopathic remedies, juggling tomatoes-whatever works." Eventually, of course, Dr. Gallagher has a miraculous breakthrough with Vincent. After washing the drugs from his system, he brings him an artist's sketchbook, charcoals and other art supplies. They stay up all night together as Vincent rediscovers his passion for his art and somehow finds peace without all those nasty medications. The next morning Dr. Gallagher sends him home with his sister and her two kids. Just before he's released, a calm and clear-eyed Vincent expresses his concern hat he might "lose control again." To which Dr. Gallagher replies, "It's possible, but it's gotta be worth a chance, though, right?" One way to understand this is to see it as antipsychiatry propaganda disguised as a drama about psychiatry. Yes, Dr. Gallagher says that Vincent may need a "new drug cocktail" in the future, but the nod to the arguments of Dr. Thomas Szasz and other pseudo-libertarian acolytes of "Mental Illness as Myth" (Dr. Szasz's 1960 manifesto) is apparent. Dr. Szasz does not see mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or chronic depression as illnesses at all. Rather, he argues that "mental illness" is simply a "metaphor for disapproved thoughts, feelings, and behaviors" and that the primary function of psychiatry is "to control thought, mood, and behavior" much like Big Brother in Orwell's "1984." One can easily imagine the iconoclastic Dr. Gallagher echoing Dr. Szaszs's most famous-and perhaps most misguided-line of thinking: "If you talk to God, you are praying; If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia." There are, thankfully, other characters in "Mental" who don't agree with Dr. Gallagher's radical approach to psychiatry. When he suggests alternative approaches to treating Vincent, the no-nonsense Dr. Veronica Hayden-Jones (Jacqueline McKenzie) replies in disbelief, "You can't treat schizophrenia with aromatherapy." Here's hoping characters like Dr. Hayden-Jones have a lot more lines in coming episodes. -Mr. Judge is a freelance
journalist.
Heather
Mom of Alexa, (17 years old) Diagnosed BP-NOS (09/05), updated to BP II w/psychotic features (05/08) Oppositional Defiant Disorder Abilify (10 mg), Lamictal (200 mg), Klonipin (.5 mg) as needed Topamax at night only (100 mg) Seroquel at night only (200mg) *when she is willing* Attends alternative therapeutic high school (Ohio) |
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momofalexa wrote:No, it doesn't, sigh. How sad.
Rayni, mom to Nick, 22, SSI, topamax, abilify, buspar, (Asperger's, bipolar, anxiety); prilosec
(reflux); zyrtec-D, nasal spray (allergies); metformin (insulin resistance)
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Elainekh |
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It was entertaining, and some parts (as in the opening scene described in the article) are not the way things are really done. But, on the other hand, his
approach to treat the whole patient and find out what is underlying and what triggers there are. Some of how he approaches things are ways I wish some of our
doctors would try to figure out us and our kids.
This child episode (which he early on says may be early-onset bipolar) actually does have some very good points. Mentions symptoms, treatment options, shows the parents relationship and how it is affected). Guess I should not say anything else in case someone is going to watch it. Yes, he does some extreme things that would probably not really happen, but they are seeing progress in the patients with "outside the box" treatments
Elaine, Mom to DS, 19, seroquel 100mg at night (or when he sleeps, sometimes!!)
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kayzie |
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the info in that article is not about that specific episode. I agree with Elaine, I was happy to see symptoms described and the affect on family life
mentioned. I didnt think they portrayed the boy in this episode (I have never seen the other three episodes so I have no idea about what the article is
referring to) in a bad way at all. I will have to set my dvr and watch them and see.
Khadra
Lizzie age 6 (Asperger's/adhd/ocd) Kayla age 5 Gage age 3.5 (BP, sensory issues) Max age 18 months |
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momofalexa |
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Wow. This is a fictional television show. Here is the part I found most disturbing about the other episode on schizophrenia:
Eventually, of course, Dr. Gallagher has a miraculous breakthrough with Vincent. After washing the drugs from his system, he brings him an artist's sketchbook, charcoals and other art supplies. They stay up all night together as Vincent rediscovers his passion for his art and somehow finds peace without all those nasty medications. The next morning Dr. Gallagher sends him home with his sister and her two kids. Just before he's released, a calm and clear-eyed Vincent expresses his concern hat he might "lose control again." To which Dr. Gallagher replies, "It's possible, but it's gotta be worth a chance, though, right?" So, if I take my schizophrenic brother off all his drugs and buy him some paint brushes, he will be cured, and most certainly will not be a danger to me or my two young children? I think that is quite naive, to say the least. Not to mention that risking another psychotic breakdown is not a chance most people would want to take. I do see that the bp child show looks a bit better and again while entertaining, is still completely and totally fictional. If these scenarios happened in real life, none of our kids would need meds...how great would THAT be? I wish these things they portray on the show were true. I need to watch this one about the BP child. I'm all for alternative medicine though. Although giving someone with a serious mental illness painting supplies isn't considered an alternative therapy in my mind. Something like the Canadian EMPower supplement that Terri talked about and things like biofeedback are good alternative therapies for a certain limited group of people I think (don't know, but that's what I think). I'm not saying the show is bad. I'm just saying I'm concerned about the overall portrayal of mental illness and the quick fix within the parameters of the show's time on and off (1 hour or whatever). It seems like they portray the doctor as a compassionate person and I like the idea behind his theories.
Heather
Mom of Alexa, (17 years old) Diagnosed BP-NOS (09/05), updated to BP II w/psychotic features (05/08) Oppositional Defiant Disorder Abilify (10 mg), Lamictal (200 mg), Klonipin (.5 mg) as needed Topamax at night only (100 mg) Seroquel at night only (200mg) *when she is willing* Attends alternative therapeutic high school (Ohio) |
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kayzie |
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Maybe they will bring characters back for on going treatment. I think this is a fairly new show? Seriously, I have only seen the one episode lol! I think they
tidied things up by the end of the episode and made things look over simplified, definitely. Im hoping there is more to the story though.
Khadra
Lizzie age 6 (Asperger's/adhd/ocd) Kayla age 5 Gage age 3.5 (BP, sensory issues) Max age 18 months |
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momofalexa |
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Yea, I'm definitely looking to see more, too. Just a few things to think about but I'm glad they portrayed the BP situation in a decent light. I need
to see this one episode I think in order to know how I feel about it.
Heather
Mom of Alexa, (17 years old) Diagnosed BP-NOS (09/05), updated to BP II w/psychotic features (05/08) Oppositional Defiant Disorder Abilify (10 mg), Lamictal (200 mg), Klonipin (.5 mg) as needed Topamax at night only (100 mg) Seroquel at night only (200mg) *when she is willing* Attends alternative therapeutic high school (Ohio) |
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Rayni |
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I wonder what NAMI's take on this show is.
Rayni, mom to Nick, 22, SSI, topamax, abilify, buspar, (Asperger's, bipolar, anxiety); prilosec
(reflux); zyrtec-D, nasal spray (allergies); metformin (insulin resistance)
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tiredmama3 |
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I am watching it now and missed the first 40 mins, but I saw a worker holding him (the sick child) and he calmed down right away. Yeah, right!
and the parents are so mellow about it. Now very realistic |
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tiredmama3 |
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I can't say all that much about it since I only saw about 20 mins of it. Maybe the first part was a lot better. I'll try to watch it online, but the
last part was very disappointing. When I heard of this show I was hoping they'd do an episode about childhood bp, but geez, the person playing the father
was a terrible actor which really turned me off right away. They did make it look so easy to treat it.
Who knows, maybe I'll eat my words after watching the first part. I just don't know if I can bring myself to waste the time watching it. |
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I watched a few of the episodes, and they are oversimplified, but there was one part where the administrative lady that hired the pdoc to work there said
something like "I hired him because above all else he looked at the best interest of the patient. He didn't care what he had to do, but that the
patient came first, so I liked the dedication, and wished I had a pdoc that cared that much. I think though it is a lot like the show House. His team that he
oversees he makes them go in search about the patients life outside the hospital. Even the administrator lady reminds me of cutty on House. The difference
between him and House is that they show the charactor caring about the patient where House is more of solving the puzzle.
I liked the show because I am naturally interested in mental health issues. The show seems to show the most extreme cases though and that has to be for the sake of drama. I still realize that this show does not help the stigmatism of mental illness for the main public who is not intimate with the knowledge but I do like to see what truths they throw in there. For instance there was this one point where the team was discussing the bp child and a woman said he is too young to have bp, and the pdoc rattled off all the symptoms of the bp child that we are very familiar with. It was a good scene. I think who ever watched the show would have no doubt that a child could have bp. So it is not all bad. I think I will watch it again.
Tina
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Ok - I need to watch this and then I will post again.
Lynn
Alex 16 - Dyslexic and learning to drive Step Mom to :
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